It is nothing new and it is what warships were designed for but it doesn't really take into account the burn factor on men. I spent years at wartime steaming in the Persian Gulf and it was easy enough because it basically required us to keep 50% of our weapons manned and ready at all times. This was something the ship's manning document accounted for and the second and third times I did it the ship was actually overmanned per the original manning documents. The first ship, though, was a one year unaccompanied tour and the old man let every single man go on his 365th day +- a day or two based on our location and the expected channel flights out of Bahrain.
The people at the Bureau of Personnel thought he was unreasonable in this regard and for about 4 months we were steaming along, wartime steaming along with about 50% of the required crew because they refused to detail in replacements. We were in Port and Starboard watch sections the whole time but spent a good deal of that time steaming towards Africa and the Indian Ocean not up in the war zone.
It's a little different conducting wartime steaming in a hot war zone under continuous air attack for days on end. If, at Condition III Wartime Steaming, we were attacked, we would go to General Quarters and all hands would man their battle stations which mainly consisted at that point of manning the other weapons and manning the Repair Lockers. The difference is that at General Quarters the ship is closed up and is supposed to stay that way to limit any damage from explosions and there is no sleep, no hot food, and it gets real old very quickly. In other words, you cannot do it forever. You can only do it for a few hours at a stretch and if every break of 10 minutes is followed by another attack, well, you can see the problem. The last time we really did anything like this was OIF.
I read that the USS George Washington has withdrawn from the Persian Gulf after almost a week of nonstop combat operations. I'm kind of surprised she stayed as long as she did. Back in the day it would not have been necessary since 100% of Iran could be struck by carrier aircraft operating in the North Arabian Sea. The days of long range carrier aviation and fighter bombers with legs is long gone but their loss imposes some real hardships on those waging war in close to hostile shores. Of course, we've known that since we started the carrier aviation business.
I'd be interested in seeing a film of the work of the DDGs in continuous action for weeks. A documentary of the crew doing its thing for a week in the Persian Gulf under continuous air attack. I don't think we will since accommodation and time is at a real premium in situations like that but I expect to see something about life on a carrier during long duration in-close combat operations.
I see that one of our submarines sank one of Iran's last remaining warships somewhere off the coast of Ceylon. It struck me as somewhat amusing because I was thinking back to my days on ships and how we dealt with trash and garbage is very different from how our Fleets do it today. Back then we bagged it and threw it off the fantail. No weights, no provisions for it to sink, we just left a trail of floating trashbags behind as we proceeded. No, we didn't dump it continuously, just every time we held sweepers or the mess decks master at arms got tired of loafers and ordered the garbage dumped. We left a trail of bread crumbs.
Imagine you're on a submarine and you have oodles of ways to positively identify your target using acoustic, electronic and visual means but just to be sure, you pull up to one of those bags of trash and read the mail there and find out that your target is indeed the enemy ship you were looking for. Target ID is a foregone conclusion at that point and its weapons free!
UPDATE:
Speaking of huge navies, now is a chance for them all to shine. It appears some countries need that Gulf oil pretty badly. I guess it’s time to pony up the missile ships and send them along to Ras Tanura and start escorting their tankers in and out of the Gulf. Some countries are about to learn that there is no substitute for a full blown destroyer escort and poky little patrol boats are not even in the same league as ships that can defend not only themselves but also those convoying with them. Yeah OTAN we’re looking at you and you too Japan, China and Korea. We’d do it but we really don’t need the oil and we’re beyond caring about parasites.
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The anti ship missiles available now make things a lot more complicated compared to just a couple decades ago. Every one within range of such things have to be on edge all the time now. Makes for a very stressful life.
You know in the old days a ship could withdraw, retire a ways, refuel, rearm and rest before reengaging. Nowadays there is no withdrawal. We’ve riled the BRICS and Russia and China will happily furnish Iran with target coordinates for all of our warships and logistics ships. It’s a new kind of naval warfare.
Meanwhile in Germany, we're now at €2.10/liter ($9.76 USD/Gal.) for diesel. That's roughly a 20% increase in about a week.
Considering Germany plans to spend approximately €650 billion over the next five years to rebuild their military, I wonder where they were planning to get the fuel to run it all?
Fun fact - Germany experienced severe fuel shortages in World War II, which became catastrophic by late 1944 and effectively crippled their war machine.
Something about history repeating itself...??
I joined the USN in 1988. I'm one of the last few to have watched Soviet trawlers follwoing in our wake to collect trash & garbage. We used to take a dump in the bags, to leave them a little gift. From time to time the Marines would shoot at the bags, file cabinets, etc., that we threw off the port quarter or Sponson 6. Training, y'know.
--Tennessee Budd
It is amazing that it took so long to convince the PTB that without fuel the war machine just stops.
I would not sweat the military consumption of fuel because I really don't ever see Germany taking the offensive anywhere for the next 40 or 50 years. OTGH, keep pushing Russia's buttons and it won't be an issue that way either.
There was a man who expressed it better than I but his take was that it would sure improve the situation a lot if people stopped worrying about how to do something mean to the other guy and started worrying instead about what will happen when that guy starts to retaliate and do mean stuff here.
The Invisible Hand now truly is invisible and can leave behind a devastation unseen since WWII. Remember when those pussies were so angry at the idea of the neutron bomb and its possible employment in Europe? Things are ever so much worse than they dreamed of back in the 80s.
Sometimes when we were doing AMCM in the Red Sea we'd reverse course and steam through the garbage bags and let the 2 bow machine guns have some target practice. The M60 could hit the bags every so often but the M2 never even came close. They were both very poorly mounted on life rail stanchions so it was not a fair comparison of their effectiveness against drifting mines. Fun to do though....
I would suggest that if we put our Navy into harms way in the Straight, we should have an Admiral from somewhere in the chain of command on that vessel. Lead from the front.
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