As we engage in another 24 hour battle over Iran it is interesting to note how very different our war with the mullahs is from our war with the communists. We made our enemies our targets in this war and we politely ignored our enemies when they were communists in all the wars of the 20th century. It seems that 50 years of reliable, relentless and repeated teaching of military professionals about the idiotic mistakes made in Vietnam are finally paying off in our struggle against the Rest. It worked damned well in First Iraq and even in Second Iraq and it crushed the Taliban in weeks in Afghanistan. WE easily won the wars and lost the rest because it was no longer war. Our politicians suck at that. They need their own school to study how the Romans and the old Raj handled that phase of it in the past.
I'm not sure what the Air War in Vietnam was designed to produce. It did not target and gut the major cities in North Vietnam. It did not destroy the ports and harbors where so much aid and weaponry was brought in from the rest of the communist world. It did not blow apart the dams and flood the valleys to produce massive crop failures and famine. It did not destroy the power generation facilities, air fields, air forces or military units in North Vietnam. In fact, I'll be damned if I know what the B-52s were doing up there.
I'd like to read about what the bombers are attacking these days because while it would offer some insight into how the war is progressing, at least in terms of damage and loss, it would also be a damned good indicator of American Leadership's Sincerity this time about winning the war and killing our enemies. If all we're doing is going after water buffalo and bread factories it would be helpful to know that and realize that this is just another gigantic charade playing out for the rubes.
Let me help you out with the targeting hierarchy as I understand it:
Yes I know that some will say we negotiated formal peace treaties with the Japanese and the Germans but we didn't really negotiate, did we? Others might say well, the Vietnam War came to a negotiated end and all I would have to do is ask what happened to the other signatory on that treaty, you know the one, South Vietnam?
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America hasn't had a war on its own territory since May 26, 1865 the end of the civil war. 2026-1865=161 years (unless you want to quibble about Jananise troops in Alaska briefly). AND it shows.
Out two great oceans kept us from direct experience.
Technology has made them almost moot. Interdependence in critical supplies like oil, fertilizer, industrial chemicals, rare earths and so on have weakened that defense.
ICBM's were a threat but MAD kept that reasonably sane.
Now Drones makes it easy for any 2 bit drug warlord to destroy multi-million-dollar refineries, cripple power grids and destroy AI complexes.
What goes around comes around.
You would think that everyone would wake up now and see that. All the old chokeholds held nations in check. Nothing at aa can keep a determined fanatic from wasting a place. Kill Dozer was the Children’s Hour compared to now.
And yet I'm reading you advocate for total war.
What goes around comes around.
Maybe our founding fathers were smarter than us "modern folks" think about not having entangling alliances and staying out of other folks' little wars.
If we had not spent decades supporting Israel, and traded honestly with most of the middle east we'd not have half the troubles we're "blessed by supporting Israel" today.
No, not total war. If we are going to do it, do it right and that means don’t fuck around for 20 years and tens of thousands of lives and endless misery. Do it right and get out. Repeat as necessary. No sanctions, no endless commissions, no interminable demands.
Those desalination plants must run on magic as you advocate destroying their power grid.
Water, more valuable than gold.
What part of compulsion as the means to victory escaped you? You think losers surrendered because they were feeling sad? They surrendered for most excellent and compelling reasons and if you do it properly control can last a thousand years. We don’t play that game of course.
We know that the US isn't serious. If we were serious, we'd have hit Khameini's funeral.
Just wait until someone uses "Compulsion as a means to victory" on America.
What part of my ongoing message did you miss?
For Americans for 161 years' war has been something OVER THERE against mostly little brown people.
That's why we can CHEER ON our Sports Wars.
Somehow, I suspect that Karma or what goes around, comes around will become a painful experience.
Funny, NOT Funny that big bad Israel didn't. Almost like they knew how suicidal that would have made their mostly US OWNED War against Iran.
Let's you and him fight, eh?
In the past targeting the leaders of our communist opponents invited a dose of canned sunshine in response. Currently that is not a risk. Although the manic mullahs have been and are working diligently change that fact. If they succeed we WILL see mushrooms sprouting. Because their savage pseudoreligion commands it. Piss poor choice we face. But allowing Islam to continue to exist is a default decision to commit cultural and societal suicide.
Maximum new leader wasn’t there and neither were any of the next 3000 in the line of succession.
Not so much with Mao, Kim or Ho. You can see where we make a real effort and other times when the softies at State win and gently remind the CINC that what goes around, comes around.
Now that decapitation is no longer just an asymmetric exercise it may be used a lot more often because those guys are all psychos. 😎
Dan I'm willing to bet a Benjamin that there is an Islamic colony within a tank of gasoline from you.
Are you so fired up about this Islamic threat, yet will drive around a call to prayer in your streets?
So easy to call for other folks to DO SOMETHING.
BTW Roth is waiting for you to prove your comment from yesterday at Appalachian Renegades. Are you coming back or just drop and flee as usual?
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