It will be interesting to see if Zelensky and Putin can negotiate an end to the war absent a sincere desire by either man to actually settle for anything less than all of what they demand. It will be interesting to see where the wriggle room develops as the negotiate the end of hostilities because if there was ever a conflict based in ineluctable divisions of geography this is it. At the end of the fighting there can only be an outcome that is favored by Russia because Russia is the only one that must be convinced to stop fighting and I haven't seen any reason at all for them to stop in even a single proposal out of the West.
The history of this type of conflict is pretty clear and well known to anybody who reads history. Russia cannot stop now without some pretty meaningful changes to the way Europe operates these days and there is zero sign that Europe has picked up on this. This war boils down to Russia being forced back on its final frontier by a power crazed coterie of madmen and women running the EU and American diplomacy since Clinton entered office.
They pushed and shoved NATO to expand to the East despite every assurance to Russia that they would not and then they arranged for all kinds of 'color revolutions' to sweep nationalist out of power throughout the former nationalist countries of all of Europe. It's like there are no real Europeans running any country in Europe because what kind of European would destroy their own countries by unlimited immigration, ruthless failure to assimilate immigrants, destruction of their military forces and finally the destruction of their economic basis by converting overnight to net zero energy insanity?
How can you conclude any kind of peace deal with fanatics of that stripe? They don't care at all about destroying their own countries and they have made it crystal clear that they urgently want to destroy Russia. With that kind of conclusion going into the talks how can anyone expect Europe or its lackeys to negotiate in good faith or keep even a fraction of what they do agree to? The outcome is foreordained and what Russia gets out of any 'peace' with Ukraine is nothing but a breathing space that allows Europe to rearm Ukraine before pointing them at Russia's throat again.
I think the talks will look as dishonest and filled with ill intent as you can believe and that the instant hostilities end the EU will try to do to Russia exactly what the Allies did to Germany after the Armistice was signed in 1918. Remember that Armistice? It wasn't a surrender, it was an agreement to stop fighting to talk peace and what went on in the meantime to a Germany? Well, you can still read about it.
You know what that poisonous peace with Germany brought a mere 15 years later? That's what I expect out of any kind of armistice between Russia and the EU. The EU is in it to win and to win they must topple Putin and break up Russia and there is no evidence at all that they mean to stop.
I will know that there is some real interest in peace over there if there is a sudden wave of unexpected deaths among the people that are quietly and secretly running the destroyers of the West. The puppet masters need to be pruned back hard perhaps and perhaps join the xroyalty of the Holy Roman Empire in the past. The world cannot afford letting the people who engineered the total destruction of the old Imperial West to continue to run things.
Remember who we're dealing with, these mean seriously float the idea that you should be made to eat bugs and like it while squatting in the dark surrounded by 3rd world savages who prey upon you and use every means at the State's disposal to make damned sure you aren't allowed to fight back.
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4th turning. Heinlein's "Crazy Years", Orville 1984 and so forth.
Power mad people working hard to keep and grow that power.
Add to that the "Great Taking" where fiscal collapse sends even more of your money (labor generally equals money for working folks) to the "smart money" front running the chaos.
The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.
Ernest Hemingway
Russia views Ukrainian's as inferior and want the land for it's resources. Ukrainian's HATE Russia/Russians for everything they have suffered at their hands for more than a century. There can be no peace between them. Unless the west prevents it Russia WILL eventually conquer and occupy Ukraine...ALL of it. After that Putin and his associates will cast an eye towar Russia's next conquest. Likely Estonia, Latvia etc. The goal is the reconstitution of the USSR.
I won''t say I disagree with some aspects of what you say but there is no sign at all that Putin wants any more of Ukraine then he has. A lot of people like to believe that the plucky Ukrainians are defeating the Russian incursions deeper into Ukraine but there are no signs of deeper incursions even being attempted. The slow and steady state of the crushing grind on the front now is simply geared to reduce Europe's weapon and ammo stocks to the vanishing point and blood a full blown army in the new way of war. I see that some wag observed today that the AUSA has fewer drones today then it had 3 years ago. We have not even begun to exploit the massive gap in our grasp of EW and drone/counterdrone warfare. It's way beyond ridiculous at this point, it's obscene.
SIGH, Dan even Aesop has stopped chanting the Russia must DIE stuff.
Putin is the reasonable one in this madness. He loves HIS Country (something Our Leadership seems lacking) and has done everything carefully as not to get HIS Country nuked by America while protecting it.
Despite Aesop's constant chant of xxx days since Putin failed to... Putin has carefully put the EU and America into a Tar baby trap and let defensive attrition warfare eat SEVERAL NATO Trained and Equipped "Ukranian Armies".
Years of terroristic attacks on civilians forced Putin to defend HIS People. We CONTINUE to support Terrorism upon His civilians. "Brave Ukraine" firing multi-million-dollar missiles at schools and apartments REQUIRE OUR Targeting Data from military aircraft and satellites.
ALL those Wunder weapons REQUIRE Rare Earths. EU and America's Source is CHINA and Russia. Both oddly enough over the past two years have slow rolled and stopped delivering those rare earths. WONDER WHY?
It will take DECADES if we can get CONgress (spelling intentional) and the EPA to approve to give America use of its own Rare Earths.
We are BROKE, we are living on DEBT (aka credit cards and rubber checks), our weapons cupboard is nearly empty (and I bet the Chinese and Russians are QUITE aware of the numbers left).
Maybe instead of eating all the CNN stuff about Russia wanting the USSR (Which Putin SUFFERED through its FAILURES personally) reconstrued we MIGHT want to clear OUR DECKS of traitors that have been stealing America's future and importing 3rd world "Voters" who they see as cheap to buy votes from.
Most Russians are decent people....Putin however is an old school KGB commie. He is evil. Kind of like most Americans vs American politicians. The terrorism in Russia is usually muslim in origin. NOT caused by Ukraine...at least not till the Russians invaded. Yes...we get our rare earth elements from other countries....because OUR commies in the EPA etc make acquiring them domestically problematic. ALL countries are broke and in debt. I am not saying we MUST have war with Russia, I am saying that Putin will NOT give up his expansionist goals voluntarily. And YOU are, as always, a low IQ leftist shill.
Look in the mirror, always spouting the same tired Putin stuff.
I notice you still haven't enlisted in the Ukrainian Foreign Legion to fight for your so-called beliefs.
Nice to hear you can actually say most Russians are decent people. Now try unplugging from CNN and Co about Putin.
Dan have you ever heard the phrase "War is a racket"? "War is a racket" is a phrase coined by Major General Smedley Butler, highlighting the idea that wars are primarily driven by profit for a select few at the expense of the many.
Maybe you should demonstrate your superior IQ and read this:
https://coldfury.com/WRSA/WRSA-WP/2025/05/21/looks-like-1914-wins-over-1989-they-want-war/
But given your previous hit and run commenting I doubt you'll read and give a honest comment about it.
EU and America are BROKE and need to steal Russia's wealth to keep the "Great Game" going.
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